Sourcing Thomas Jefferson quotes: “A country with no border . . .”

A group calling itself “Patriotic Moms” claims to quote Thomas Jefferson:

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Thomas Jefferson said a lot, and kept careful records of about 15,000 letters — but did he ever say a country without a border is not a country? (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

“A country with no Border is not a country.”

I can’t find that in Jefferson’s writings.  Anybody know if Jefferson said or wrote anything like that?  Got a citation?

Is this another fake Jefferson quote?

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5 Responses to Sourcing Thomas Jefferson quotes: “A country with no border . . .”

  1. JamesK says:

    First off, higgens, you’re quite’s hard to prove a negative.

    Which is why if one can’t prove that Jefferson did say the quote it’s safe to assume he didn’t.

    But judging from several right wing blogs that claim that Reagan said “A nation without borders is not a nation.” I would suspect that the quote is really Reagan’s and not Jefferson’s.

    It wouldn’t exactly be the first time someone on the right side of the spectrum falsely attributed a sentence to Jefferson. *coughs* David Barton *coughs*

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  2. Ed Darrell says:

    Mike Pence, congressman from Indiana? That’s a long, long way from Jefferson. No connection.

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  3. Ed Darrell says:

    Who the heck is Pence?

    But finding the quote from Pence also takes us a step farther away from attributing it to Jefferson.

    In serious history study, we don’t make claims based on speculation. If we can’t find a clear reference with good citations, we do not cite the quote to Jefferson. To do otherwise is known in academic circles as “lying like a rug.”

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    has this quote attributed to pence

    which of course does not mean jefferson did not say it

    it is always hard to prove a negative

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