Stubborn Birthers soldier on


Birther “Dr. Kate” sez there’s a case coming to a hearing in Pennsylvania that will go to the Supreme Court no matter how this hearing turns out.

Here’s the table of contents to Kerchner v. Obama. Here’s the full complaint, according to Dr. Kate.

Probably the best thing going for the plaintiffs is that Orly Taitz only appears by name in a bizarre accounting of everything ever said on the issue (except for the lack of evidence and reasons this case will fail which, oddly, isn’t included in the complaint; everything else is included).

I predict the case will be dismissed, but it may be dismissed with prejudice.  That is, if it really does come to a hearing.  Is that really possible?

Warn others so they don’t get trampled:

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17 Responses to Stubborn Birthers soldier on

  1. It links through to the Bundestag’s e-petition site, so… yeah. Legit, but weird.

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  2. Ed Darrell says:

    Thanks, Mike. I read it, and I couldn’t figure out why anyone would spam it. It may well be . . . but it seems to be a legit site. Anyone know differently?

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  3. Ed, previous comment to mine is possibly spam – it’s about signing a petition for organ donation. And, you know, also in German.

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  5. Ed Darrell says:

    On silence as admission of guilt, see the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. I am on America’s side.

    We don’t determine guilt in civil cases. So the rules of civil procedure, as support for a claim that silence equals guilt, would be misused.

    But I gotta admit, even flipping through my dated copy of the Civil Pro rules, I cannot imagine what rule you might claim to be citing. Silence can only be interpreted as silence under civil pro rules. That might result in a default judgment in some instances — such as in a secured credit case. But generally even those defaults can be overturned if the facts are contrary to the ruling (not always).

    Are you saying that your side is akin to an unscrupulous debt collector?

    Interesting claim.

    More seriously, do you have any particular procedure rule in mind?

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  6. Nick Kelsier says:

    Oh and by the way here is the idiocy behind your claim “If he’s innocent then why has he spent so and so amount defending himself”

    Under that reasoning, Kate, I can sue you, just for example, for the wrongful death of my uncle John.

    And the second you hired a lawyer to defend yourself is the second, under your reasoning, that you just declared yourself guilty.

    If you claim to be such an American..if you claim you love this country so much then you will bother to grant to Barack Obama, no matter how much you don’t like him, the same grace that is extended to you…that you are innocent until you are proven guilty…not the other way around. And that you exercising your right to defend yourself is in no way shape or form proof of guilt.

    If you don’t, Kate, then your claim that you’re such a good American, that you love this country so much is nothing more then a fraud and a lie.

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  7. Nick Kelsier says:

    Have fun swallowing, Kate:


    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

    You really want to pretend that a woman in the 60’s engaged in some conspiracy to pretend that her son was born in the United States when he really wasn’t? What would be the point? After all, he was born to a US citizen, that makes him a US Citizen no matter where he was born. So what’s the point?

    You are the one being decieved, little one. And all because you’re such a racist piece of trash that you can’t stand that a black man is President.

    Oh and please don’t try and paint him as a Communist again, that much laughing isn’t good for my health. He barely qualifies as a liberal right now. And if you want to pretend that he’s a communist then that makes every Republican and conservative on the planet into Nazi’s.

    Please, little one, define Communism. What is it?

    Tell me then if you’re so concerned that our President wasn’t born in this country how come I haven’t seen you complain that the Republicans dared to nominate as their presidential candidate someone who was born in Panama? How come I have yet to see you and your birthers go after John McCain? There’s only two reasons why you and your fellow birthers haven’t.

    1: Because he’s a conservative republican. The problem with this is you didn’t go claiming that Hillary Clinton wasn’t born in this country.

    2: Because he’s white.

    And I find it amusing that you support a woman, Palin, who is a member of the Alaska Independence party which means that by definition what she wants is treasonous to the United States. And not only that but since the AIP has been known to engage in the criminal enterprise of collecting explosives and wanting to use them that also makes them domestic terrorists.

    Your contention that there is a conspiracy going on is insane. You’re talking about an conspiracy that not only involves Obama and the Democratic party but also Hillary Clinton’s Campaign, the McCain Campaign, the George W Bush White House, the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service, the Republican governor of Hawaii (as he’s the one that produced that document I linked above), the Republican party, the entire Congress and every staffer of the Obama, Clinton and McCain campaigns. Not only that but you’re also talking about a conspiracy that involves Great Britain and it’s former dominion of Kenya not to mention the country of Zanzibar. And a young American woman 40 some odd years ago.

    And you want to pretend that you and your side isn’t insane?

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  8. drkate says:

    Nick, the state of hawaii produced no such thing. Its time for you to not only shut up, but STFU. Go back to your studies you obviously need to work harder.

    You have been lied to and don’t even realize it.

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  9. drkate says:

    Nick, if you are getting a Ph.D.in political science, then you really are out of the loop? What are they teaching you about the qualifications for a natural born citizen? Are they teaching you how to manipulate the constitution? What research sources are you using? Are they teaching you that you can get a job with a xerox copy of a certification of live birth and that’s all? Are they teaching you to hide your head in the sand? For heavens sake, producing ANOTHER dumbed down Ph.D. I hope you have no plans to run for office, I wouldn’t vote for someone who is that naive.

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  10. Nick Kelsier says:

    Kate, I am currently working on a doctorate in political science. Do you really want to pretend that you know more than me on this subject? Do you really want to play this “Because you disagree with me you must be stupid and uneducated” game with me? Because I promise you sweetheart, I can play that game far better then you.

    You have no proof, you have no evidence. And the only one acting like a communist is you because only a communist or a fascist/Nazi or well someone who has no respect for the law would think that “silence equals guilt.”

    The state of Hawaii has produced his birth certificate. It is time for you to shut up.

    You are not on America’s side. You are not a “patriotic American.” You’ve sold your soul to fear and hate and ignorance because you’re scared to death that a black man is the President.

    The only blackmail going on is the one you and yours are trying to perpetrate because you want to overturn a legally binding election because someone you don’t like dared to win.

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  11. drkate says:

    Thanks for the typical responses to this issue, lets me know how uneducated people really are.

    On silence as admission of guilt, see the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. I am on America’s side.

    For the proof that Obama is not an NBC, read his book, read the constitution, and read the law. Go to Mario Apuzzo’s site. And, if you can, answer me this: if Obama has nothing to hide, why has he spent 2.1 million dollars hiding his information? lololol

    What you rubes fail to understand is the danger our country is in. And the blackmail that is now underway. Do you honestly want America to become a communist nation?

    Do you realize that your ignorance in this issue is precisely what Obama is counting on? Keep your head in the sand, boys.

    When the nukes come flying over your head just remember who you voted for and defended. I am not laughing, I feel sorry for you. Pitiful that you can’t even defend your own country.

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  12. Nick Kelsier says:

    Last time I checked, Kate, one is presumed innocent until proven guilty in this country. Obama was born in Hawaii to a US citizen, you have no evidence to the contrary.

    And I find it curious that you and your fellow birthers who are so concerned on where the black man was born but show no concern where his white opponent, John McCain, was born. After all..John McCain was born in the country of Panama. Or did that fact somehow escape your notice?

    See, little one, the law says that when one is born to a US citizen, no matter where, the baby is a US citizen from birth. That is how John Mccain was able to run for President. And that is how Barack Obama would still be eligble to be President even if you were right and he was born in some other country.

    It is time for you and your fellow birthers to shut up, you have no case, you have no evidence and you have no facts. All are you and your fellow birthers are doing is proving how completely stupid and insane you all are. What a racist piece of trash you are to be throwing a stupid hissy fit because *gasp* a black man dared to run for President and even more *gasp* won it.

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  13. Ed Darrell says:

    Interesting that Obama has not once responded to the charges, which can be viewed as admission of guilt.

    Only in the old Soviet Union and the Peoples Republic of China can silence be viewed as an admission of guilt.

    Whose side are you on, again?

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  14. Preston says:

    So maybe the Brit, Neil Sankey can succeed where the Russian immigrant (from the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic) has failed, bring it on.

    Poor little Birthers (still in denial about their losses), Judge Land and now judge Carter, smack down the crazies (case dismissed).

    Not even “Fake News” Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly believes the crazies, how funny.

    http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2010/01/05/glenn-beck-mocks-the-birthers/

    http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/10/29/bill-oreilly-slams-orly-taitz/

    http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/BIRTHER%20CASE%20LIST.pdf

    To all the birthers in La, La Land, it is on you to prove to all of us that your assertion is true (TOUGH WHEN YOU KEEP LOSING CASES), if there are people who were there and support your position then show us the video (everyone has a price), either put up or frankly shut-up. I heard Orly Taitz, is selling a tape (I think it’s called “Money, Lies and Video tape”). She is from Orange County, CA, now I know what the mean when they say “behind the Orange Curtain”, when they talk about Orange County, the captial of Conspiracy Theories. You know Obama has a passport, he travel abroad before he was a Senator, but I guess they were in on it.

    In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme religious right (people who love to push their beliefs on others while trying to take away the rights of those they just hate) and that’s who they need to extract from their party if they real want to win. Good Luck, because as they said in WACO, “We Ain’t Coming Out”.

    I heard that she now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC). She wants to re-establish a family values party.

    I can only hope that Taitz will resist the state collectors that will be hounding her like the “ruff ruff” that she is to collect the $20K.

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  15. drkate says:

    Thanks for the mention of this case. It will go up, even if it is dismissed at the appeals level. And if it does get dismissed, well then we truly know that the entire judiciary is part of the scam that is Obama. Interesting that Obama has not once responded to the charges, which can be viewed as admission of guilt. Now the key is, will the American people put up with a usurper? Especially when he starts getting americans killed on our own soil? Only time will tell.

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