Earlier, in the thread about bad quotes, bad scholarship and Ann Coulter, a person asked about another quote that has dogged speech writers and investment seminars for years:
I am trying to discern the author of the quote “compound interest is the greatest invention of the 20th century.” Since you mention neither Twain nor Einstein remarked this, do you know who did?? I would be very grateful.
Comment by fact checker 07.11.06 [emphasis added]
Twain’s words are well enough cataloged that, had he said it, one would be able to track it down. Think for a few minutes about Twain’s finance issues, however, and you realize it is highly unlikely that he would have said it. Twain invested heavily in a machine to mechanically set type, to publish the memoirs of former-President Ulysses Grant; the machine did not work, and Twain lost his fortune. He undertook a grueling lecture tour to make money back. Later financial setbacks forced another long lecture tour. It is not probable that Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) would ever have said anything about simple compound interest. It was not his style to invest passively, or for long-term returns.
The line about compound interest being the “best invention” of mathematics, or of the 20th century, or whatever, is more often attributed to Albert Einstein. Google “compound interest” and “Einstein” and you get tens of thousands of hits.
It’s a good line, a snappy introduction to the Rule of 72 for a presentation to potential investment clients or for the introduction to the rule in a high school classroom. I have a short PowerPoint presentation on the Rule of 72 for economics classes, and I would have used the quote — had it checked out. My experience as a journalist and speechwriter urged caution.
I wrote to the Albert Einstein Institute, to the American Institute of Physics, and to other places where people might know obscure sources of Einstein’s sayings and writings, to try to verify the quote. It surely did not turn up in Bartlett’s Familiar Quotations, nor in the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations. Those specialists in Einstein data and history could not verify the quote (which is the careful way of phrasing it). One fellow I spoke with said if he had a nickel for every time he was asked to verify the compound interest quote, he would have no need for compound interest.
I can say with confidence that Albert Einstein never wrote or said anything about compound interest. While Einstein wrote about a wide variety of topics, compound interest is not among them.
Fatherflot at Daily Kos wrote about this quote in early 2005, after several advocates of privatizing Social Security had used the quote in one version or another to introduce their own remarks. A lot more people read that blog, but no one there could verify it, either. There are several variants on the quote illustrated there. I think that an alleged quote’s lack of veracity is often demonstrated by mutations. For real quotes from real people, generally someone knows the original work and starts writing about what it’s supposed to be — at many cocktail parties a line about “consistency being the hobgoblin of small minds” will be corrected (Emerson said it is “a foolish consistency,” and it is “little minds”), for one example.
As I told fact checker, I think the line was invented 40 or 50 years ago. From my checking, I would bet it was a copywriter or speechwriter working for some investment house. We may hope to someday track down the origin of the quote, and if the originator is still alive, ask her or him why the line was attributed to Einstein.
Fillmore’s bathtub runneth over with bad quotes, hoaxes gone amuck, and other errors. We just try to flush a few down the drain.




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October 5, 2008 at 6:01 am
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June 4, 2008 at 2:49 pm
I think he might have said it.
“The most powerful force in the universe is compound interest”.
It’s a joke. You are getting something for “free” (extended long term unearned income) or you are losing more than you can imagine, becoming a debt-slave.
Take credit cards, you can pay a small debt for 40 years because of compound interest. Compound interest moves money from the borrower to the lender in a miraculous way. Compare borrowing $100 and paying back $110 to borrowing with compound interest, where you can borrow $100 and pay back $250. The difference is time. You can borrow a shovel and return a shovel, but with compound interest, you loan a shovel and get back three. Money, as an exchange medium becomes an end in itself that defies the laws of nature. If you plant a crop and don’t harvest, it doesn’t increase three-fold.
For a guy that looked at energy as being zero sum, this was a man-made “Law” or “Rule” that was indeed powerful. So powerful that extreme compound interest can disrupt or control a society as much as a war, due to unequal distribution of wealth and never ending debt. (King Leopold and the Congo)
It is not clear if compound interest is the essence of capitalism or the curse.
Einstein would be equally amazed at the concept of leveraging derivatives where both sides of a deal are virtual, purchased with virtual leveraged money, yet the difference between perceived value produces real capital. Where does this go? To Second City where everything is virtual, yet real to the extent you can “earn” real money and sell virtual assets.
March 17, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Can you please send me your “Rule of 72″ presentation from your economics classes?
I hope to do something for some members of my investment group.
Thanks
February 17, 2008 at 12:09 pm
[...] turns out that according to this blogger, even the Albert Einstein Institute says that Einstein never said anything about compound interest. [...]
January 14, 2008 at 2:19 am
Can you please send me your “Rule of 72″ presentation from your economics classes?
I hope to do something for some members of my church coaching group.
Thanks
December 3, 2007 at 6:44 am
[...] as having declared compound interest to be “the most powerful force in the universe”. It is an urban myth, but it seems to have taken on a life of its own, so I had no choice but to also mention the quote [...]
November 6, 2007 at 8:09 am
Actually the origin is the Johny Carson in the 80s: ’scientist created a new weapon destroying people and leaving houses standing, the compound (17%) interest rate’
September 28, 2007 at 4:31 am
Hi,
I had to investigate the same “Did Einstein say that?” question for a piece on my blog.
As far as I could tell, the phrase was first used in a 1983 article in the New York Times.
August 2, 2007 at 12:43 am
Can you please send me the powerpoint presentation also to share with others?
May 7, 2007 at 6:58 pm
Please send me the powerpoint presentation also to share with an economics class
April 26, 2007 at 4:12 pm
I’ll snag your e-mail address and send it to you — they are slides I pirated from a Primerica presentation on line. It’s not difficult.
For example, here’s a Rule of 72 calculator:
http://www.moneychimp.com/features/rule72.htm
Here’s the Wikipedia article on the Rule of 72, plus some other stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_72
And here’s the Investopedia article on compounding:
http://www.investopedia.com/university/beginner/beginner2.asp
I think kids get a kick out of mastering the math to do the calculations for the Rule of 72 (”How long will it take to double your money at 9% interest?” “8 years.” How about 6%? “12 years.”) But the real value is to convince them of the power of saving and especially of saving early. Primerica poses two brothers one of whom starts putting away $2,000 a year at age 18, and stops at age 28, and his brother who starts putting away $2,000 a year, but at age 28, and keeps it up until he’s 65. Which one has more money at 65? The gaps are large enough to get interest of kids.
I had a student last school year who told me one morning he had an extra $800 and was going to get a pair of “clean” rims for his car. I asked him to calculate how much that $800 would be if he invested it at 9% until he was 65. When he came up with the figure (in the hundreds of thousands of dollars), I asked him which he’d rather have. He postponed the purchase for the last six weeks of school, and I’ve often wondered which way he went.
April 26, 2007 at 5:26 am
can you send me that rule of 72 powerpoint you do for economics classes – I’d love to see it and share it with my fellow students